Do Thai people hate Farang?
Hate is a very strong word and while I don't think Thai people hate Farang I still think there is a very ingrained dislike for the westerners. Thai's are very xenophobic and fear is ingrained in them like chili is with their food. So is it that Thai people fear Farang or do they hate us? I'd love to hear your ideas.
Me I believe that Thai people are simply scared of Farang. I see it everyday, their refusal to talk with me, Thai's blatantly ignoring me as if talking to me might somehow cause them to drop dead. This fear can easily seen by going to any Thai frequented restaurant and watch as the waiters fight over who is going to have to serve you.
Thai people are scared of anything different or unknown, take for example ghosts, the majority of Thai people are scared of ghosts, some claim to have seen them, but ask any Thai person if they know of anyone who has had something evil done to them by a ghost and you'll find no record nor will you find any reason to actually fear ghosts. So what is there to be scared of? Fear of Farang follows the same ridiculousness, in fact a Thai may never have even spoken with a Farang before yet they are scared to even make eye contact.
One of the strangest things about Thai's fear and hate of Farang is they keep trying to look like us, I was recently in Bangkok and saw so many girls with nose jobs, bleached skin, it's an obsession that is out of control.
I even found a facebook page titled "Hate Farang".
http://www.facebook.com/pages/เกลียดฝรั่ง/137101906424591
While many Thai's frustrate the the hell out of me I still have less "real" problems with Thai's than I do with Farang. So while most Thai's are scared of Farang and some even hate us, I still love the Thailand and the majority of Thai's.
I encounter the hate/fear factor everyday! I haven’t figured out how to post on Thai Visa Forum to elicit some suggestions from the greater Thailand Farang Community on how we, as a group, can dispel their fears and diminish their hatred. There should be some way that we, as a group, can counter the institutional message that all farang are “kohn mai dee.”
I would have to say that the THAI’s do NOT like farang’s. They ‘pretend’ to like us but they are ‘only joking’. I do not like farangs myself actually. We are sort-of disgusting. Actually we are disgusting.
They only want us because of our money and we are walking ATM’s. Neither the boys, nor the girls like the farang. That is why so many fall off of their balconies. (they are pushed).
They do NOT love you, they do NOT even like you, sure, they are good for sex, but don’t be confused by that. I have recently had problems with immigration and they dispise us. Would I want a Thai coming to my country with 10 times the money, having sex with girls half their age, and being loud and obnoxious? NO I would not.
It does matter what you think of Thai people. But since you have no respect to us, I suggest that you go back to ypur cave and don’t you dare come back here. And I hate youse.
The problem we less respect from you because the way you react, you think you come to Thailand with big money and that you think it make you get respect, you better than us. The way you just jump in it bar, hooker, sex why? because you think it easy with your money, ( You love to stay in shit place so you get shit that all ) When you step in Thailand what you looking for it sex, lady you never looking for respect. You just use your money trow your money around if like that why we had to respect you. Most of you just a crab anyway.
Yes people come to Thailand fall in love and have children, then realise they dont have the right to work to support there family, they cant own land or even buy a bit of land for their children until they are 15 years old.
No chance of residecy.
If you set a company up it has to be Thai majority owned.
Every westerner has to show funds in his bank or he will not be able to buy a ticket visa to stay with his family.
Its like a bloody clock counting down till your next visit to immigration, and dont forget or they will charge you more than the standard Thai daily wage everyday until you can find the money to keep your loved ones in your life.
If you cant its on the plane, and if not in the immigration prison.
Rent prices go up, currencies go down.
People do go to Thailand with “big” money, most of the time every cent they have, but being denied income and expected to pay double, even “Big” money doesnt last.
People take to drink to drown the sorrows and become destitute. Some think f**k it and return to there home country without their families. And leave their children to start a new life. Others love their family so much that they cant leave them.
Thai people must hate us they dont half make it hard to stay with the people you love.
As Thai people have constantly abused the european visa system its now even harder to take your family back to the Europe.
So theres not much choice for us.
Thailand does attract old tourists looking for sex as it seems to be set up for that. And where else in the world could a seventy year old sleep with someone a quater of his age ?
What young person would throw his life away trying to make Thailand his home and trying to realise a dream that will never happen. Loads and loads of people.
Very sad as its such a lovely country unfortunately it will never be a place Im able to call home.
And i dont like being called a farang by people who know my name, infact its horrible and racist.
You get what you deserve. Thailand has always marketed itself as a sex destination, so obviously it attracts sex tourists of the lowest category. Pattaya is the world capital of paedophilia, and one of the most corrupted places on earth. Children can be bought for sex, so the disgusting pedophiles go there and have fun. But think about this: where there is a buyer there is a seller and if it was for me I would slaughter both the dirty pedophiles and those who sell the kids, cops included. Most of the top criminals and mafia bosses in the world seek refuge either in Thailand or in Brazil. Why? Because they know they can easily pay the right people for their silence. Sex bars of all sort are open from early morning until late in the night. The prostitutes call you from every corner “hey you… want massage?” Do we want to talk of the full moon drug parties in the southern islands? So, to cut short if Thailand had marketed itself as a cultural place or for its natural beauty (with zero tolerance on criminality, paedophilia, corruption and drugs) it would have attracted a very different crowd of tourists (westerners or not). Why Rome, Florence, Venice, Paris etc. are not submerged by a dirty crowd of low-life? Because they are true cultural destinations. Yes, there are also some prostitutes but few and far apart compared to Thailand, and most of all they are ALL FOREIGNERS from south-east Asia, East Europe, South America and so on. Just a very tiny and negligible number of European women (maybe 0.1%) work in the sex industry. Prostitution is considered a loss of personal dignity but not here in Thailand. I tell you more: not all the farang are the same (and not all the Thais of course). Unfortunately when a farang comes with the best intentions, with respect, kindness, etc. he does not receive the same treatment back but instead only hate, discrimination, etc. I know people who came here with the best attitude towards Thailand, Thai culture and Thais but eventually, after years and years of mistreatment have become racists. Now, with my comment I have no intention to offend you or anyone or to add more hate to this already hateful discussion. I just hope to make you think. Cheers.
Jeff is obviously a sexpat who wants to fuck for free but to ugly to get free pussy, and is probably bitter as fuck about it. “Im white, why dont I get free pussy from thees hoes”… gd job bro buyin girls younger then your granddaughter. perve
Totally agree on the ‘falling off balconies’ part! I read Pattaya One newspaper just for some mild entertainment occasionally, and every couple of weeks there is a story about some foreigner ‘falling from their hotel / condo / room’ balcony to their death’ !
I began wondering if Pattaya might be a place where many foreign men decide to go to jump to their death from a high building.. Of course, I’m sure there are a few legitimate jumpers in there.. but the frequency is simply too high to not raise suspicion..
I’ve met so many sad fuckers in Thailand these guys are destitute. It might sound suspicious but especially in Pattaya, fuckers lose themselves.
“I do not like farangs myself actually. We are sort-of disgusting. Actually we are disgusting.”
Wow you hate your own race, you need to see a doctor fast!
They are mad because we have bigger cocks !!!
interesting comment, but do the girls really hate that?
some thai man have bigger cocks than farange also.
Don’t be kidding… no matter how bigger you are, but if having less strength; it’s useless, that’s the reason why Thai girl doesn’t love you.
Always dangerous to get into generalisations. I notice only 9 people have liked that Facebook page and one of them was a farang who went on to write “Fuck you”! Good on him!
I think normally Thai waiters are scared to serve farangs because they’re shy about their lack of English and don’t want to deal with a grumpy tourist if there’s a problem with the order.
The main time I do notice is when Thai people look in the back of the songtaew, see me and decide to get in the front with the driver! 😀
lol that’s happened to me before too, it always feels bad being on a bus somewhere and all the seats are full except for the one next to me.
I recognize this (the only empty space left on the bus is next to me). But in the end when somebody finally dares to sit beside me I often have a very nice conversation with him/her. More than once I got the telephone number of the girl sitting next to me, without asking for it. How often do Thai people get a telephone number of a girl sitting next to them on the bus without asking for it? … Almost never.
I don’t want people to think I wrote the Aricle to say that I hate Thai’s that’s not the intention, but as you pointed out Thai’s are scared of US but when they are close with someone that fear goes away. I also believe that Thai’s are scared of other Thai’s but it’s more fun to look at things narrowly.
You may be a good looking man,Jefke. We,Thais, are always interested in the western people. Giving you her number means she is interesting to you like everybody did..please do no go too far
Also, you hold the door open for them and they just walk in and don’t even as much as give you a glance, I’ve had them see me get in the elevator and go to another elevator and wait for it instead of going up in the same elevator as me.
Someone would take an opportunity to talk with you if they are able just to make simple English conversation; unfortunately, in the rural area, it seems almost 0% able to do that, therefore the best thing for them are to keep away from you by letting you sit alone; anyway the ‘rural area’ could mean the area on the public bus in Bangkok
… the “only empty seat on the bus is next to me” happens to me almost everyday!
I am the only farang living in my wife’s village and have encountered the utmost love, respect and kindness from Thai’s. I have at no time experienced any dislike or animosity. I enjoy their company immensely.
You are typical of the delusional retarded farang. Its not that they like you or love you. They love your money. They smile for your money. Your thai husband allows you to screw his wife because you pay her and she passes on the money to her Thai husband. Its far easier to live in delusion than be a man and face up to the facts. You are not alone. Thais hate farang why would any woman like you? its not possible for thais to like farang. That’s like saying people like eating shit. Farang is something people spit on, not like. Do not worry you certainly are not alone in thinking Thais like you & see no link between paying. You can’t be love even in Thailand. My god your wife is doing it for the Thai hubby.
Uh ohh sounds like Jim’s been taken for a ride by a girl half his age and now feels the need to blame the entire population of Thailand. If you feel this way why are you in Thailand? Or on this website for that matter. Do us all a favour and stay in your own country or are you not accepted there either?
Must be English!! Them Brits are all dour and sourpusses. 🙂
You clearly haven’t met many, you ignorant prick.
sorry for grammar mistake
Jim, thanks for your comment regarding Thai people. However, please don’t generalize all Thais according to your experience.
Now I have learned how to treat the rude Farang.
1 Don’t be submissive to any rude Farang because they are all similar to us
2 Do not offer any help to them before they require
3 Say excuse me before talking to them
4 Talk to them as less as we can do, besides, they desire to have a conversation with us.(Don’t forget to make eyes contact why you are talking to them)
5 They don’t understand our smile therefore just ignore them(They say ironically, our smile is crazy smile)
6 Their money and our money both are from hard work, so do not take advantage of them.
7 Many Farang expats learned and have got bad experience from Thai girl. So please forgive them
Jim, is your world so narrow? Dont you think the word “gold digger” came from england, and it was about and english girl ? … Just sayin, you can find golddiggers in every part of the world, you are the one coming here looking for a fast one, thats what you end up with. Easy come easy go.
Lol I knew poor farang english teachers with rich, middle-class Thai girls who were recieving money FROM THEM. Cheer up man.
Interesting comment.
In two years I have never encountered any problems like this with Thais. I have many Thai friends and family all over Thailand. I think you are a little paranoid.
I think the Thai’s have more shyness (with Farang) then anything else. But it might give the impression of hatred or of being scared.
Correct.
But look also at how Thai people behave to each other. Wouldn’t say that’s a friendly and nice story at all.
Anyway, the old days that the Thais would wipe farang ass for nothing are long, long gone too..
Thomas
Cant blame some of them, Farang arent well represented by tourist who travel to Thailand for 10-14 days wear speedos from the beach to the bank, footy teams on end of year trips running amuk disrespecting everyone including other farang, with their vulgar behavoir, arrogant farang not bothering to learn whats acceptable to local people. Then theres the pedos and other large assortment of weirdos. Thailand attracts large numbers of shit farang.
Aussie Yobbos in Phuket are a good example of this!
Aussies, get em Pregnant and do a Runner, Scum…
With Girlfriends , not one night stands.
for sure thai people dont like poor farangs and women can also kill a farangs if they discovered that they have married with poor farangs…believe me folk, there is no so hard cruel sick of money in the world like thao women….
That’s bullshit!! did you ever hear the news about that? i lived here all my life, I never heard such things. you met somebody bad, don’t mean all people are bad too. There’s a lot of poor farang here, why they still married and alive? the reason farang died in Thailand is because they say shit like you. next time when you write something, please don’t just write any shit.
nah, its the american goverment, then the jews. then it might be the thai women.
Some time IT is really scary : when a thai driver wants to drive over 🙁
Please don’t generalize; the people you claimed must be a background of bar girl; anyway if I am supposed to be a representative of all Thai people, the look must be changed into the other ways, in your view, cause I never take advantage to your people or too submissive the white people even though we are poorer in economic status.
-“Do Thai people hate Farang?”-
Depending on which Thai you talking about,. ?
if you’ve the young Thai-girls in your mind,
who you can not even pay a bowl of noodles after you lured her to make love with you,
and all the other girls you have treated in the same way,
I wouldn’t wonder why. !
about most Thais religion (ghost)
yes,.. it’s much different from fx. USA / Europe
which one do YOU think is ‘right’,. ?
sorry for my bad English,. I’m from Scandinavia.
and live in south Thailand.
and yes,.. I’ve know a number of Thai,.. mainly woman,
they want to be married, and live like mand and woman,
(because the woman is usually dependent on a man)
not necessarily the same as the foreigner who ‘visit’ the woman / lady / girl. intend.
are Thai stupid,.. ?
no,. Thai culture is much different from western, note,… ‘culture and difference’
exactly as the USA before the white man ‘rape’ the country — (America)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States#Native_American_and_European_settlement
just try to visit a Thai-computer shop and see how quick he can fix your computer,
last week my MC dotted,
on the next corner a Thai mechanic fix a new inner tube, less than 5 minutes,
price,.. 100 thb,.. thank you 🙂
excuse me,.. but I don’t know where you meet the stupid Thai,.. in the rice field, ?
try some new experiments,
follow a Thai (man) and go out fishing,
– after the fishing,.. tell me who catch most fish,.. !
the ‘stupid one’ have to go hungry in bed,. !
Where in the article did I say Thai’s are stupid? As for fixing bikes, I know one good mechanic and 100 terrible ones….
Thais don’t hate the farang any more than a sane farang hates the other low class farangs that infest the Kingdom. Loud, short tempered, and the women dressed like sluts. No wonder the Thais are wary of farang. There is a good reason.
So, you’ve met me and the wife!
Yeah it’s something like paranoia. If you do things that you know are wrong, then in your mind you will think that Thai people must hate you, and you’ll be looking for signs everywhere to confirm your suspicions. Actually most Thais are probably indifferent, but if you are a cool person and don’t behave like a depraved asshole, then they will like you.
OK, but I didn’t say Thai’s hate farang I said they fear us.
what is the name of the article again?
its not fear. its shyness, listen to brad, he sounds like a good lad
to Chris
That’s the most terrible misunderstanding; theThai didn’t fear of you, but they are too shy to be the bullshit mute in front of their guest therefore the best way for them are, to avoid talking to you in public.
I think you are mistaking Fear/Hate, for simply being shy. Its a very common Asian trait, that if you were Asian you would know very well. They don’t talk to you mainly cause, they either cant speak or understand English, and not accustomed to being around non Thai’s.
I speak fluent Thai and hardly ever break out the English, even when someone knows I speak Thai I can still see fear in their eyes.
i chris how long did it take to learn thai and were you self taught
took me 12 months i was self taught
Chris
You are right; no matter how fluent Thai speaking, you are, but you are still being looked different. In our experience, you have insulted any darker race as the lower- classed in the term of know- how or technology. I have read many comments from the western expat forum: a high percentage of them looked Thai people in the wrong prospective by generalizing all of them as the bar girl, whom you have encountered in all your life. Anyway, I would like to suggest Farang men to keep away from that kind of girls and in the contrary, let’s go seeking for the general Thai women to associate with and then you will be apparently know us better .Fortunately for Farang, almost Thai fond of Farang unreasonably and they haven’t ever read Farang’s comments, or they probably change their mind from Farang favor to the hatred to Farang instead
Thank you for your comments ” a .” “… Anyway, I would like to suggest Farang men to keep away from that kind of girls and in the contrary, let’s go seeking for the general Thai women to associate with and then you will be apparently know us better.” I agree- however, most Thai females won’t even look at me or talk to me. The only ones that are friendly and will talk with me are mostly just the “bar-girls.” 🙂
“Thai’s are very xenophobic and fear is ingrained in them like chili is with their food”
The chili was introduced to Thailand by Portuguese traders, it wasn’t originally in their food. 😉
Sure that was a long time ago
Shit happen’s—————happened to be a friends girlfriend. I guess she needed some space. Saw her Yesterday—she is with the Dane who fucked her!
She good lookin though!
I’m a little surprised that this topic seems to be framed so superficially as there are some real issues here. Not that Thais hate us but that a lot of what you’re referring to is simply the Thai mindset.
The reason they refuse to talk to you is because most are very self-conscious. Combine that with low English skills and few Thais want to talk with some foreigner and possibly make mistakes speaking another language.
Out in the sticks and I’ve had the mayor of the local area come out just to meet me. I’ve had little girls (7 – 10 years old) stop me on the street and ask if they could practice their English. I’ve had groups of guys stop talking with girls and come over and start talking to me once they saw the color of my skin.
The point is, there is no inherent hatred of us.
I think the thing you have to keep in mind is that Thais don’t live in a true multi-ethnic, multi-cultural society like we do/did. I remember overhearing an elderly woman who was a friend of my wife’s family asking my wife, “What do the farang eat? What food do farang like?”
That is literally their point of reference into our culture. They grew up in a mono-ethnic, mono-cultural society. Literally, I was the first white person that elderly woman had every met. In fact, I was the only white person she had ever seen outside of television, movies, and magazines.
Should I read her hesitation and fear as hatred of me or as that of an old woman who has no idea what to say to me?
It’s funny too because, like Alan, I’ve seen all sorts of positive aspects of this. For instance, my wife took me to a monk’s ordination ceremony in her town. The father of the soon-to-be monk came over and insisted I help shave his son’s head. I had never met either of them before and yet he told me that it would be a great blessing on them.
I think you’ve taken a very complex issue and tried to boil it down into one or two examples that fit your hypothesis.
TheFarang- Very well stated! I, as well as most of us, have experienced both poles of acceptance/avoidance. We can be honored, appreciated, recognized, made to feel like a movie-star one day, then be avoided, cheated, insulted, ignored the next day. It alternates between receiving a warm hospitable smile and getting a sneer. Of course there are exception to every generalization!
I’ve noticed that in my apartment building in the suburbs of BKK, that it’s about 50/50 of the Thais being friendly and, of course, those that avoid even looking at you. It very much is a different culture- an entirely different mindset. I don’t take it too personally because I see Thais not being particularly friendly with each other as well.
I think we just need to accept the fact that we are foreigners living in a foreign country and deal with the lonliness of that in our own way. (I think females in EVERY country on Earth look primarily for financial support from any potential significant other.)
To TheFarang,
How long have you been living in Thailand? Your comment had pointed out that you understand theThai people and their culture well. I have no better explanation than yours anyway, we don’t have the word ” Xynophobia” OR ” ABNOXIUUS” in Thai, however, thanks for understanding.
I think they are just shy. Never had a bad or unfriendly experience with them. Once the ice is broken they make me feel genuinely welcome. And they are so much fun to be with. I find they are naturally happy and friendly. It may have something to do with me treating them as equeals and all ways smiling
No,nooooo… I’m not think so!
NOT HATE just DIFFERENT btw FARANGS and THAIS.
just afraid to talk to FARANGS because… shy,different language,don’t know how to speak in english with farangs most of them think, or may be some don’t care farangs even the THAIS because they doesn’t know you or not interested in you, not them business…. and nothing to concern with farangs ever the THAIS that time. It’s possible then just like that, not hate BUT loved you AND welcome,okay ! (Normal people no matter farangs or the THAIS they are nice)
And some more reason you can read the comment from “SEAN”
THANKS CHRIS! you made me smile.
(sorry… my broken english)
first thing, I’m Thai. and i don’t think any thais people are hate western. but thai has habit like you said. they don’t like anything different and do’t like to adapt too. about people don’t face to foreigner becuase they fear to speak english. they fear and shy to speak failed.
p.s. i like you website. thank for information that i’dont know cuase i’m thai 🙂
NEVER have encountred any of the negative comments!!! Fat skinny pretty ugly they all take aseat next to me Do these guys shower?? Get out of Pattaya or Phuket this is not Thailand Sure some are shy majority aok.
hi all,and sawadee kup,,,there are rights and wrongs here,,as BAM and other people have said,,yes thai people are /can be shy,,,to talk etc,,,BUT,,there are thais mostly 40-50 yr bracket who DO hate us,,i have been in 7-eleven and been given terrible looks,almost like they want to kill me by men mostly,also women,,,and i dont know these people,,.
i have a thai friend,i had a party for my sons birthday a few yrs ago,and this Hater xenephobe thai,,often given me looks in the past,was my thai friends friend,,obvious was my party,i paid about 5.000b in all,,,he was drinking my whiskey,did his best to keep away from me,,then gave me evil looks whenever he saw me,,,iam a friendly englishman,,so i suppose what im saying is,there are haters,shy thais,and i know many lovely thais who are so friendly,and are good friends,,,some thais i know say to my,,oh you talk with everyone,,,HAHA,,but i still have thais that dislike me,and they have never met me.,so rights and wrongs here,,no one is right no one is wrong,,its different personalities thats all. OH,,,,and i dislike most farang i come accross here,,,i give everyone a chance,,,but yes,,,most are running away from something in their own country,pedos,or just sado,s,,,,,thats all,,i think 😉
follow up to what i just said,,i didslike most farang i met here,,,but have met good ones too,,just incase anyone gets riled,,LOL….
Chris, what you wrote about how “They keep trying to look like us” is yet again spot on and I’ve come to the same conclusion: That is, some Thais (but not all), I think try to “be like us” in all forms possible: Dress like us, act like us, get white skin, dye their hair to the tint of say a westerner’s tone, and even listen to the same music and watch western shows. Yet it’s in that same take, that I believe they don’t really want to be us and remember Thai values and how proud one should feel to be Thai and thus in that moment, distance themselves from wanting to be like a foreigner.
In years of living in Asia, I’ve yet to get the impression Thais fear or hate us – quite the contrary. Indirectly, I fear the Thais are quite perplexed by we farangs – especially in the realm of cultural norms.
Thai culture is oppressive by western standards in the simple fact that perceived status dictates everything – right down to the wai, and its function in the Thai social system. Most farangs are oblivious to these cultural norms. I cringe as I see farangs on the BTS hugging and kissing, young Euros in smelly and dirty pajamas, females with no social decorum. Small wonder we are a puzzle to them.
Farangs need to understand that Asian countries are shame cultures; western nations are guilt cultures to the core. And in this simple reality, the mysteries of the east are explained.
A clue would be Japan in the Pacific War. The Japanese were ready to sacrifice their women and the young to avoid loss of face (shame) rather than submit to the greater power and will of the west. It took a supernatural weapon to break them, and even in this it took the Emperor to accept defeat.
Well Said.
Let’s face it who doesn’t hate the typical Farang yob who visit Thailand. Personally they make me ashamed to be a foreigner in Thailand, I cringe on a regular basis when I see their behaviour. So in response I smile a lot, I’m polite to the point of craziness, I help in the local schools and I am respectful of their cultural differences. So if they meet me maybe they will understand that not all farang
are what they expect.
I feel bad for the Thai’s, Algerian,Russian and obnoxious Tourist Trash,
Who don’t take the time to Smile and Be Polite and are Very Surprised when you take the Time to be Nice or even stop your motorbike and letthem walk across street, Big Smiles , Always.btw ,Love Issan Northeast,allThai’s are Very Nice,I stay in Hotels up there and Thai’s will always offer you a Drink of Beer or whatever they have. Actually The Real Thailand, nice not many Farang up there in Villages, they are usually in Awe of Farang, and you Smile, and they usually Smile back, and wave, love it…
There is a definite contrast between city folk and those in the country
It’s easier for their simple minds to place the hate on outsiders than it is to take responsibility for the mess their own country and culture has become. Many Thais hate foreigners, that is no secret. The good news is, not all Thais hate foreigners.
Agreed,Aussie treat the women like Shit
We Thai folks generally like strangers, especially if they are westerners (even nowadays we also crazy about the Japanese and the Korean). We adore you as you come from a more advanced countries with more ‘civilized culture’.
we show you kindness because we think you might have difficulty dealing with a ‘less developed’ environment.If you look fine we won’t intervene but if you have even a slight problem most of us are ready to help.
Please note that Thais are well aware of their inability to communicate in English. That’s why are to shy to speak to you. Not that they hate you (unless there is a reason for that feeling.)
I hope this can clear things up a bit. I felt sorry for your unpleasant experience. But I am even more sad for my fellow Thai who are unjustly misunderstood.
Love the Thai’s ,What I don’t like are The Russians wearing American Flags on shorts and T-Shirts, we got enuf problems being blamed for everything else in the World,I always give the Thai’s total Repect it’s their country, just happy they allow us to Visit…
I see thai society like i see french society prior to revolution.
Peasants (poor peoples) – Middle Class (bourgeois) – Noble (from the 200 or so families that posses the country business and are close from power).
Peasants dont hate us but lots of them just sees us as glorified ATM machine. Press the right button and some money will come out of it. Prolly No hate but envy and cupidity toward us. Dispite coz you have everything while livin a sinful life (Ofc Some are genuinaly happy to chat with you tho, lets not make generality too much)
Middle class are open minded, they now considere mix relationship whether love or friendship, and even if its kinda new i’m sure they dont hate us. Gaining there respect requires a respectable way of life and a true esteem for there country, way of life or beleives. If you spend every night in gogos and show comptent for there lifestyle they will considere you as what you are, a sad fuck.
Noble are well educated, most of them have been abroad many time and are lucid about thai WoL and the difference they carry between them and non thai people. They will never considere relationship with farang more than basic business relation, and they will not hangout in places that are frequented by people other than there own class. Especially not farang.
Most of the time , average european that come to the kingdom only get to meet “peasants” (bargirls/taxis…) and yes many time they will have bad experience, realizing that its all fake relationship and that the utter goal of these people is to get to your wallet. But how to blame them. Life is hard and being a farang means you got money according to them. They just want there share.
If you go to Uni and make friends from middle class you soon realise they are not fake and dont hate you at all, that they are the nicest people on earth and you’ll self improve and learn lot about life with them and you will ,like me, fall in love with there culture and the way they see the world and interpret life.
Last thing, of course everybody hate a dirty ass backpacker or a sexual tourist, its not about being thai, if you ugly , cheap and disrepectful please note that the whole world hates you, its a fact.
Sorry for such a long msg and my poor english. Please note that i speak for what i learn in my past years in BKK and not know other cities so much.
Hi. I’m 16 y.o.Thai. I’m gonna tell you that our English is kind of bad because we don’t speak English 24 hrs a day. We speak Thai so continue asking if you want to know something. There must be someone who can talk to you , like me. I love the foreigners because they have lots of interesting ideas to talk with. I love talking with my funny American teacher in my school too.
And I think the reason why there’re some Thais who hate “Farang” or the foreigners is some Farangs usually look down upon us that we are undeveloped blahblahblah ,but I mostly agree with them that we are “kind of” undeveloped because most of Thai adults who have power to control our developing system are fucking old fashion headed.
Please don’t care If you found any mistakes. i’m not good at english.
Thanapon, Great English, I hope I cross your path someday , Keep Studying…
Thanapon, you expressed yourself quite well. Knowing that true education is “The conditioning of mind so that action is not self-centered,” -be assured that there are an abundance of uneducated in every country on this Earth. Best Wishes to you as well.
people from europe and amarica .if you dont like thai land not visit my country .we dont need welcome bad people from europe and amarica also .you think you god .no you buffalo that .not think to wrong with my country.amarica peopel and europe people woof.
Don’t be Ignorant, look at The Russian Scum in your country, or the French Algerians running amuck…
I think you western just like buck teeth women because you have it with your face on the Issan girl ass only!Thai girls say Farang love to smell Thai girl asshole and watch her go to toilet.
Sounds like an interesting holiday.
…. Yes, I can personally vouch that this is true!
Ive heard this aswell lol
I have no problem talking to Farangs while they’re in Thailand (having had overcome the initial fears/xenophobia & embarrassment of fucking up my grammar when I was younger and I’ve even worked closely with/for some) but having lived abroad for quite a while makes me realize most Farangs (westerners, to be specific) who’ve never left their countries or learned much about other foreign cultures are even more afraid of exotic-looking folks like me (oh, the irony!).
we don’t hate farang
i never before that thai’s hate farang
i don’t know how to describe
we r welcome farang
i love every country
after reading some of the stuff published here most of you have got it wrong, the Thais don’t hate us they just consider us 2nd class citizens so, screw us for as much money as possible while having as little contact as possible.
Language barrier breeds misunderstanding, misunderstanding breeds fear and hate.
It all comes down to the education system isn’t it? We do have English class in school but it is taught by a Thai teacher that can’t speak English.
on but they do have French that’s taught by a local at least in Australia and the USA, it’s very common also to have ESL teachers who are non-native speakers.
Have had alit of thai girls for free . They must fuckin hate me so much they wanna fuck me
Goto a full moon party and youll hate falangs and will never wanna see one again.
I hang out with fhais they can be way cooler than theys trust f6nd kids trying to be like decaprio in the beach
Thailand established itself as a country based on tourism.. it is a business to them.. i have met good thai people and many dicks.. unfortunately the dicks really spoil it for me.. i think if you work in the tourism, you are expected to be courteous and helpful..you want the money, earn it.. i don’t want to see evil glances or attitude… you wanted tourists to come..here we are.. deal with it… i’ve gone to several countries.. Cuba.. where i have gone off with cuban friends to tour the city.. not an ounce of fear or bad will.. thailand better get on the same page..I did go to a city in thailand where people were genuinely nice and i felt no hostility.. perhaps it is people who have to deal with tourists on end.. but most definetly there are dickheads.. and i’m greatful to live in taiwan where strangers will often help you in need in any setting…
I ve read that Thais are the most Self-Centered of all, you can certainly see that on the roads, at Tesco, 7/11, Mc Donald’s ,Toyota Fortuners they will cut you off at a moments notice, it’s a me first attitude, I don’t allow it, il move right in front of them, I don’t leave gaps for anything anymore, I’m a yank, and we just don’t tolerate it, Their are rules for society…
Wow! – This is great! A lot of wonderful, thoughtful, sincere comments were made. If it keeps going, maybe we will better understand each others’ point of view.
Hey I’m Thai and I will ask your question. Most of Thai People do Love Farang Why not? In our opinion most of Farang are good looking and very kind. We want to talk to you but “Most” of Thai people can’t speak English very well so we fear if we try to speak it will make us look like a stupid ,Then most of us decide to ignore Farang. Next time if you want to speak with Thai people try to start with Sa-wad-dee-kub(Mean Hello in Thai) it can help.
sorry for my bad English
Hi, Ben a Pleasure, I wish Thai People weren’t so afraid, and overcome their fears and relax and have Fun and Conversation, I stay in Isaan, I Love the Thai people up there, Hope to meet you soon my Friend…
Maybe they don’t want their country being taken over by americans and other foreigners because they are comfortable mainly with their own people, and very home like people with their own. That’s majority of thais live in Thailand while very few go to live abroad, cus their comfortable with their culture and way of life, and to have so many foreigners going there is kind of like an invasion, and they have every right to feel that way, its their country, and doesn’t belong to outsiders.
I hate seeing white guys with thai girls too, its so wrong. im from Malaysia, pretty much neighbors I guess with Thailand, or near neighbors but I hate seeing white people with thais or malays its just wrong. They take their culture and corrupt our girls, and our way of life, and mock our culture and think its funny. I don’t welcome or tolerate white people in Malaysia, and I have a right to feel that way since it is my country too as much as any other malays. As for for thais white people are only going there because of the muay thai craze, with no real respect for the culture of Thailand most of the time. and I HATE hearing a foreigner talk thai or in my language, its just stupid and wrong, each culture should stick to their own instead of trying to be and mix. I don’t believe in or support culture unity its dumb.
I think you need to get off the computer and go Socialize, and
Enjoy culture of other countries, you obviously have no social skills by your rant…
“B” …
As much as I dislike the Dutch, you Malayans would still be cannibalizing each other, were it not for your time as a Dutch Colony. Look at your goons in Southern Thailand – killing innocent villagers. Shame …
Alright Gringo…
Well, let me break it down to you guys, since im “thai/farang”.
Thais neither likes or hates or are scared of farangs. They are just pretty sick and tired of you sexpats and junkies, BUT, they also know that not every farang is that way.
Consider this, in any country, where dont you see the dislike of immigrants? How you you like the muslims, the jews, the blacks, the latinos or the arabs in your countries?.. Especially if most of them acts the way the farangs do here. Imagine Norway is filled with black RICH men to come and fuck and take the Norwegian girls to africa… but come to norway only to fuck bitches, party and drugs and all the shit that comes with that?…
The problem is, that farang have a tendency to demand that we like you, and take for granted that just because you are farang, thai people will be to your service. I get this alot, all my white friends always ask me for favours while not giving back.
All we ask is, respect the people, respect the country and be a good citizen, and all thais will love you.
And yeah, thai men hate that farang comes and take the women, but thats cool for me, I take the white ones. That might be jelousy, not fear or dislike. Just plain jelousy.
We are not racists by colour, only by intelligence. If you are stupid, then you are hated by everyone, so stop crying and read a book or something.
You are right; no matter how fluent Thai speaking, you are, but you are still being looked different. In our experience, you have insulted any darker race as the lower- classed in the term of know- how or technology. I have read many comments from the western expat forum: a high percentage of them looked Thai people in the wrong prospective by generalizing all of them as the bar girl, whom you have encountered in all your life. Anyway, I would like to suggest Farang men to keep away from that kind of girls and in the contrary, let’s go seeking for the general Thai women to associate with and then you will be apparently know us better .Fortunately for Farang, almost Thai fond of Farang unreasonably and they haven’t ever read Farang’s comments, or they probably change their mind from Farang favor to the hatred to Farang instead
Unlike most expats I went to a Thai school here, have Thai family (though I’ve never married a Thai) and before moving to Bangkok I only exclusively dated University girls and girls who worked at banks, lawyers etc. Generalizing all girls is fair but I gotta say, difference between bar girls and regular girls is none. They both the same, The difference is really how they look at you, if you are a customer then you’re a mark. What’s funny is you’re generalizing Farang and then have an issue with us generalizing you. .
I used to come out here years ago…bangla rd was quiet…clean beaches…no sound..in the space of 30 years..its a complete farkup….walking st …is no better…total brothel…theres still virgin ground…untouched by western culture…were i will not say…i love my quietness and tranquility….it pains me too see isaan girls rounded up like cattle..put on a podiums naked…and let some farked up diseased scum fuck westerner…take her werever he wants and do whatever he pleases…thailand owes an unpayable gratitiude to the isaan women…even if you know the language….have(in your mind) thai friends…lived many years out here…youll always be a stranger….there not scared of you…they see what western culture brings…an eradication of peaceful living…so next time you wonder why they evade you…your a stain on there proud culture…an evil that some day will be gone without a trace!!!
Did a Farang Steal ur Lady, You sound so Bitter, The times are a changing, you better get used to it…
Myself I hate the gooks I think there wretched creatures
Reading all your comments. Some are truly understand us. Thank you. I, on behalf of Thai, really appreciate that. But some not.
However as an old Thai proverb said สีซอให้ควายฟัง roughly translate as to play violin to a buffalo. Even you are a reborn of Paganini, a buffalo cannot appreciate you music at all, so why waste my time?
Some see us as stupid, uncivilized, uneducated, etc. will always see us no matter how many time or how hard we try to explain the differences. They think they are smarter, more civilized, richer, etc. You can prove from many comments above.
That’s why many Thai said in the biggest Thai webboard whenever there are topics about misunderstanding between you guys/gals and us. One of the answers is always “ignore them. Don’t try to make them understand us.They will not.”
Some people only see what the want to see. No need to explain.
(And now many of you guys will think that here come another xenophobic arrogant Thai. Fine. Go ahead.)
BTW. Do you know that there people from some countries that Thai really like? In fact many Thai even overestimate them, since they are human and they share common flaws. (Yes call me stereotype. You always do that. I get use to it. But at the same time please remember a stereotype does not come out of thin air.) In the biggest webboard there was threads from time to time asking which countries are the best friends of us. These people are always listed with more than 85 percent approval.
If you know what ethic people we like, learn why we do. I have found some of you expats knows that in other webboards like Thaivisa (which, I told you, lots of Thai don’t like most people there. Many are just losers who can’t be success in their own home so they just come here to use their money to catch the feeling of “winner”)
However I have never see you guys truly understand why we like them.
That’s why I told you that you will never understand us.
No, you are so wrong, and you are an arrogant xenophobic ignorant thai, even if educated. Many foreigners already became successful and simply want to retire in warm country (most western countries are cold). That does not make them losers. Sure some are far from perfect, but Thailand is a cheap country for dollar, euro or pound, don’t be jealous. Instead fix your own people and country to develop, innovate, invest in research and development, etc. Instead copying everything from the West and using Japanese and Korean technologies. Warm cheap country is all you people are until you become truly civilized. Most of Thais don’t even follow Buddhist principles – I am more Buddhist than most Thai people, omg. Lol. Money and power and face are your God, not Buddha.
Hmm! For me, I don’t hate Farang. But I hate Filipinos. Thailand is a nation of smile, in Hong Kong, they are also smiling to us, I feel warmest. They are hospitality is making feel Thailand and Thai people aren’t bad.
I don’t how Farang looks to Thai and Thailand, as a Hong Konger, I love Thailand. Thailand is a the best country, when I entries the country on 2011.
I will keep go to Thailand per 2 years, I will let Thailand and Thai peoples know, how much we Hong Kong like you, but you guys only like JAPAN!!!
Thais hate farang, for sure, but only if they consider themselves higher than you, it’s a hierarchy. They admire you and be your slave servant if they think you are higher than them. So … become higher. Lived in Thailand 12 years, successful businesses and all. Dress super nice, flash money and Thai gold as much as possible, show off and claim your family owns top hotels back home, make top connections with top Thais including politicians, learn Thai of course same as I did, have mia noi kik mistresses everywhere, white skin and young, hi so Thais will really admire you for that, they do it too. Once you become big time, walk around like you own the place. Curse the Thais in Thai when they show slightest disrespect, and if they get upset tell them about hi so people you know and how they gonna get big problem from you, then watch the xenophobic cowards submit. Learn martial arts to defeat them in case of physical fight, usually they fight to kill so you do too. Once they see you are as they are – won’t tolerate disrespect and will kill to save face – you will be fully accepted, admired, feared, and of course all honeys are yours. End of story. Otherwise you are just a lower form of life to them. Be more arrogant than them, that’s how you win. Remember – you are white, they are brown, so always point out to them that they are dam dam while making a disgusted face … then tell them being white is the best – use their own psychology against them. You will never lose.
Best response thus far, agree to most everything.
Hey, you disgusting child raping losers, we only want you for your money. Period. Accept it and move on or move out!
If Thailand didn’t have women in the workforce, there would be No Thailand, all Thai men are drunks and women beaters and Lazy Fucks
I only lived and taught English for three months in Thailand but I don’t think I had a single bad experience. I lived in a rural village where my thai neighbours went above and beyond the call of duty to the point of cooking breakfast for me everyday. I was treated extremely well as a farang. Strange to see people have had such bad experiences!
I live in Isaan, same thing , so nice…Thai People
Yeah just had my first bad experience with a Thai asking me where I’m from then telling me to go home (Im in a little rural down near Surin). Really made me feel like shit.
Never been to Thailand. Country where the king made $35 billion during his reign through a secret holding company. Country where the king to be often forced young girls to come to him on a whim. Country where the police all take bribes. Country where you are awakened to totalitarian speakers blasting info of the day. Country where Isaan people routinely die of malaria (a disease iirradicateable just by drying swamp land) and enjoy a life expectancy 15 years less than the Bangkok folk. Country where children are sired to take care of their parents, sent off to the big city at 18, and praised for sending home money even if from prostitution. Country where you negotiate with mommy to buy your potential bride. Country that leads the world in penal dismemberment. Country that leads the world in admitted unfaithful partners. Country where the largest industry is sex tourism.
Nope my experience is here in America in a Thai- based business. Haven’t met one Thai who hasn’t lied to me. Haven’t met one Thai who pays his taxes. Almost all receive low income benefits from the government. Tons of overstayed visas and fraud marriages for citizenship. The temple is just a money factory. The monks charge for everything.
They are a proud people – of what I don’t know. The farang is the ATM machine. The greatest dream of a young person is to get out of Thailand, make American money and/or be taken care of by a farang. Should they be successful, the dual life occurs. The annual trek to the home country of 1-2 months is where life occurs. Showing off the American wealth. Then back to money-land. Children are left behind to be raised by grandparents, get the same laughable education, and perhaps die of diseases eliminated in the first world countries or maybe just a motorcycle accident.
The farang, dual-tier pricing continues. Discounts for Thai people, overcharging of the farang.
For me, the lying is the worst. The have a shitty god – a peculiar version of Buddhism where monks act as clairvoyants and don’t preach morality, probably because it is too of this world – dharma this.
Money, not family is the central, driving force. Getting it is worth selling one’s soul. Farang are objects. A means to get money. Other than that, nice folks.
I have been to Thailand about 40 times now and have come to hate the Thais, they are rude and arrogant.
They only love the money off of the farang, they sell themselves for money and they sell their children for money.
I have no respect for them, they have invented nothing really, they have given nothing to the world of any real interest.
They are lazy and are getting fatter each year.
Everybody so different. Everywhere in this world good and bad mixed. Nobody is perfect. Don’t insult who . If you insult the other . It means you insult yourself too. We are humans.