Are Bar Fines out of control?
I understand inflation, and I know that it's not as easy to make money in the game anymore due to exploding property prices and higher rent prices, everything seems to be going up. But the extortionate fees some Go Go bars are asking for makes me wonder how much further can they go?
If you're a punter coming to Thailand better pack some dosh because it's not as cheap as you think. Standard Nana Go Go bar these days on an average night is 600 baht with most bars anticipating a medium price of 700 baht bar fine across all bars this year. You'll find the same prices on Walking street in Pattaya about the same prices with some show girls costing a minimum 1000 baht fine just to get her out!
The startling thing about this trend is it's getting even harder to convince these girls to go with you. Can you imagine, there are many guys begging to take these girls out. With the advent of Facebook idolising bar girls is making it easier for the big spenders to seek out the best goods leaving normal guys the dregs. Add that to the fact that many bar owners these days hire good looking coyote girls that don't even want to go out in the first place since they make 20k dancing on the pole.
The game used to be much simpler, I have money you look good lets go. These days it's more like I have a lot of money let's have a good time or I have a little money so please pretty please can we go so you can lay there like a star fish. It's getting more complicated to find a good looking Thai whore these days. Many times it's simply cheaper and easier to find a nice Uni girl off a dating site like Thai Love Web than it is to dodge the skyrocketing bar fines and under performing Go Go girls.
It's not IF the average Bar fine will be 1,000 baht it's simply a matter of WHEN. Will it stop there? How much are people really happy to pay for a bar fine. I still know of a quite a few beer bars in Pattaya that still have 200 baht bar fines but they are of a different class and clientele. Personally If i'm going to go out of my way to get a shag then i'm paying for the best I can find and if that means 1000 baht bar fine then so be it. But that's gotta be the end of it. More than that is simply not worth the money.
To take a girl out of the Gentlemen's clubs in Bangkok it's typically 10 drinks (if the girl agrees to go and this is before her fee). On weekends and public holidays the clubs usually ask for 15 drinks. This is standard practice at the Pent or Pimp this would typically cost a minimum of minimum 3500 baht.
What is the difference in paying 3500 baht for a Coyote or 1000 baht for a Go Go girl? Not much! Except the Coyote from the Pimp is going to shit all over the Go Go girl in terms of looks and more likely in action. G Club girls are wild party animals and are less country than their Country Go Go girl counterparts.
What prices have you paid lately? Do you think Bar Fine prices are monopolized? Are prices getting to high or are they still reasonable?
Gentlemens Club in Pattaya which is a middle tier gogo not a GC wanted 1500฿ at 2:30 in the morning. And that’s just the BF. The girl was nice looking but not one of their best. No wonder so many guys head to the discos.
look there are still some nice girls in pattaya and bar owners to,i took a girl out of bar soi6 and good looking because other guys in hotel and street keep looking and smiling her and want to speak to her but they cant for im in the way and she not want to either and she very popular at her bar for she has many guys who try and keep in contact with her on facebook and when i there many guys come looking for her at bar or send message by phone but she refuse them because she with me.
her boss say she make her a lot of money each month she say the girl earns for herself 50,000 baht a month sometines 80,000 baht but it ok if she go with me long time even if her boss lose money with her being out of the bar and she normally does not do such long time out of the bar because she see the girl really wants with me
also other girls in bars very jealous of her when she with me when we go drinking,i see by the looks
anyway for 15 days it cost me only 10,000 baht to take out of bar which less than 1,000 baht a day and if i come back the boss said she wont charge me again for bar fine if i want the girl,and no i dont pay a fortune in drinks in the bar when we occasionaly whent back there to drink,why drink in one bar when there many go go bars to watch show with your girl and she made sure i not ripped of for price for drinks or drink to much in each bar or get pressue from other girls to buy them drinks or pressure from bar staff to buy more drinks for me and her and we see girls dance and have show for free
by the way the girls in all the go go bars even walking strret seem desperate to have customer bar fine them for they always looking the customers scanning them to see if they can catch there eyes including mine even though i already got a girl and when they do get customer bar fine them they very happy even the great lookers,so they seem to be desperate for customers although i see a lot of the girls can be very stuck up as if they think they are goddess huh big joke if they that good at what they do they would not be a bar girl but have a rich sugar daddy by now
also be warned many of these girls do have thai boyfriends i been told by my girl so they only interested in short time because they cant wait to go home to there real boyfriends even if they guys who only want the girl while she is earning good money so they dont have to work
she said 2,500 baht for each day she spend with me although she look after me so well i gave her 3,000 baht which she think to much but i made her take,small money for me, she spend all the time with me,never want to have excuse to go away for even a short time,
personally i think she would do with me for free if she did not have to send money to her family up in the north east all the time,parents brothers and sisters seem to rely on her for the small family rice farm does not always make enough money,a common story i have heard it say in thailand
when she want to go back to her room to get something there no problem i go with her sao she not hide anything
when i insist she have new clothes she not want at first then take me to cheap market where she buy a lot of good clothes all for total 1,000 baht,many shorts tshirts it what she like and she insist on go outside hotel for her food so it cost me very small even though i eat hotel where good food was cheap,she want to pay herself but i insist i pay and yes she allow me to go with her,so i dont mind sit with her in thai resturant and drink a coke while she eat im not stuck up and the thais dont mind me,they very friendly yes i can understand some thai so i hear what they say even though i dont let on i know
so you can take a good loking girl out for a long time and not have her cost you a fortune and have your fun with her and she look after you very well and not be ripped of by bad bar owners.this bar owner she very popular with big regular customer base and always busy, thats why she very good at the business and owns 5 bars in pattaya and several condos for rent
so it possible to have long time in pattaya and not cost you a fortune and from what i see there are many good looking girls like her with a good attitude if your the right guy for them and treat them ok but dont be stupid and soft either because i see there are many rip of girls there to
who knows you may find god looking girl who will do it even cheaper or even for free if your lucky,it just i insist on pay the girl brcause i know she need money for her big family and for me it small money 15×3,000 baht it not even a thosand pounds for her to stay all time look after me and have fun with me yes including boom boom and she would have done it cheaper maybe free if she not need money for family
and if they want you to come to thailand to live and youy tempted to do like many guys do dont believe the bad girls that want to put it all in there name or control your money,control it yourself,this girl would not take my wallet ever when i offered to give her my wallet to her pay bills like bar or motorbike taxi,i just try her out but she refuse to take
also even though you cant buy land in thailand you can get legal protection over any thing like that like company or lease so dont belive the bad girls that say put all in there name and then kick you out like many guys have suffered this there
get a good honest lawyer who is used to deal with non thais and property so dont sign your life away and if she a good girl she wont mind you do to protect yourself,dont end up sleeping on pattaya beach like some guys who did give all to there thai wife and then kick them out and leave them with nothing
it easy to protect yourself ok
3,000 baht a day 5555555555555555. Thats why she stay with you everyday your her job……..Shes making 3000 b and all expenses why do you think she doesnt want to leave you…If some female your hometown offered to pay you 1000 pounds a day and expenses you going to leave them for a day. Hell no…….And she do you for free????????? 555555555555 She would only do that in the hope of scoring a bigger payoff later on….
Hey try this one if your looking for something serious get the hell out of pattaya. If you cant meet a normal girl here then just stay in pattaya cause there aint no where in the world for you to meet a normal girl. In other words your Game sucks……
No offense Brian but your story is the same one told over and over again since the Vietnam war era………
And please don’t offer any kind of legal advice as you really don’t know that your talking about there either………
She’s just a scammer like all of them.
Your dillusional Thai clicks all scammers all about Bhat.
True that Bren, go to a normal bar the choice of freelancer or civilian. An inexperienced freelancer might only ask for 300baht or civi free. Much cheaper, no harrasssment from staff or extortion for drinks.
700b? That’s expensive? Really? snort snort……they havn’t caught up with Billboard NEP in Bangkok.
2000b. No, not ST price. I verified. Just the BF. Stay away.
OK, I need to add that it was 600b the night before. When they saw me crawl back the next night for that fetching thing, it became 2000b.
Stay away all the same.
I’ve seen places in Pattaya like that also, worth it? I’m undecided.
Makes more sense at these prices to put some real effort into meeting relatively normal Thai women outside the bars.
Thailand ain’t cheap anymore (not comparing it to price of hookers in the west either because that sure as hell isn’t worth it).
Hi Chris,
You have an interesting, relative site. I’ve moved here 5 months ago but I’ve been a regular for
about 8 years and I’ve seen a lot of change. On a couple of occasions in these past 5 months I’ve bought drinks and partied only to find the bf was 4000thb. At Dundee’s soi Cowbiy that’s flat rate unless it’s a coyote. It’s bullshit and I’m not paying. Too many other options.
1000 Thb bf? No way! Unless she’s hot and I’m drunk “must have” of course;)
JIm
Thanks for reading and your update will be read by many help make them decide. The prices is getting a bit of a joke.
Have just returned home from patong beach and they have got in on the act. Beer bar in quite soi, bf 500 and the girl cannot leave bar before 2am. Some beer bars in Bangla lady drinks 200 and 2000 bf. when asked why prices are so high ( in both bars) I was told that they put up prices because they weren’t making enough money.
Thanks for the report, not making enough money? I don’t know whether to believe that or not.
That is how businesses think in Thailand, Thai airways have done this on and off over the years when business is slack, prices go up. I now prefer the Phillipines and the girs are nicer for what you pay, in Angeles anyway. Thailand is now for beach hols with my owner (the least whorey bits of Koh Samui and Phuket )
Been to Angeles too and price have skyrocketed too.
You have to play the same game of using internet or going to disco late at night.
And with Angeles , you have to pay everything upwfront which is even worse.
The girls have nicer attitude , but not all of them.
And in AC there is virtually nothing to do and hotels are expensive. There is no beach.
The good time is over , i believe its all fragmented between internet ,discos,etc … And it becomes a job to find good plans.
Bar Fines have reached 1,000 THB now.
I just came back from a weekend trip to Pattaya and as I had a drink in “Show Girls” in LK Metro Alley I asked for the bar fine more because I was curious and she said it’s 1,000 THB. I was like are you serious normally it’s about 700, she said yes, from during the first two hours its 1,000 THB then at 10pm it drops to 800 THB and then at midnight it drops again to 600 THB. Interesting new way to charge more for the beautiful girls as they are obviously taken out first.
The bar fine at most go gos on Walking Street is still at 700 THB including Baccara, however the girls have steeper rates, standard is 2,500 THB for short time and 5,000 THB for long time.
Thanks for the update Stefan!
the boss of the gentlemens club told me the bf range is 800 to 2000!,
a cola light and a lady drink cost me 300 the girl wanted 2000st I left.
after lots of vodka found a well rounded cute 19yo in Tims of all places
on second road,1000bf,2000st,1000drinks,500 for pool and drinks,
spent at least a 1000 drinking before ,add in 2000 a night hotel then
eating bits andbobs laundry etc its getting on for 10,000 a day
half is for a short time with a gogo girl,might tey a soapy.
only fools and the inexperienced will pay such prices, ok the gogo’s will still get hi rollers who have money to burn but in what numbers? That hi roller will take a girl or two yes, but what about the rest, they and Pattaya will price themselves out of the market, as
experienced punters who want value for money will avoid such places, instead like me they will go hunting out attractive girls in massage parlours and ‘ordinary’ beer bars who will be very grateful to come back to your room later for 1000 st and 1000 to 2000 LT, also the many freelancers at discos and generally just walking about,
2500 for ST FFS, ridiculous, the same girl will go 1000 ST in a disco
is it any wonder its low season all year now?
Attractive girls in beer bars and massage parlors? the showgirls, the ones worth 2500 for ST are rarely, rarely dude found in beer bars and rub and tug shops. If you have a great body and attractive why the hell would you work in a beer bar? So guys can come and have their way for 1000 baht. Thanks for the comment mate but please think about it!
Agreed. I have rarely ever (I think that should be “never”) seen any girls I would be interested in at any of the beer bars or massage parlors. All the nice girls are in the go go bars – at least as far as Pattaya and Bkk are concerned. It is virtually impossible to find a nice looking free lancer. I would imagine that people who only go with the cheap girls like those from beer bars, massage parlors and freelancers just do not realize how hot/ cute some of the go go girls are!
To find a girl who is hot, a good lay and less than 2000bt st is quite hard but is possible. I see some of the go go girls who get barfined and I would not touch them… some of them look no better than beerbar girls or freelancers. If people are happy with the 1000bt girls then so be it. I find I have to go to about 5 different go go clubs before I can find a girl who is good enough. The vast majority I would not consider. I still find quite a few that will accept 1500 st. Even that requires a bit of playing around, for example, letting her believe that you will go with someone else if she asks for too much.
Smith I am serious concerned that someone of your experience and time living in pattaya would still be paying so much for time spent with said women. A lot of men don’t help themselves when approaching, talking and negotiating with these working girls. I’ve just got back from pattaya and never paid more then 2000 baht LT, and that was once, 1500 a couple times, and 1000 a few times and got it for free with these same girls the odd night. These girls are smarter then most men think and can smell a mug a mile off. Try and think about things through your head and not through your boxers and you’ll get much further. I know this concept must be impossible for most but the girls will certainly notice and will quickly be bartering with you wanting you to take them away. I honestly can’t believe what people are paying, I know it’s hard but is guys are not helping the situation. It’s supply and demand at the end of the day and if you guys insist on paying more then the prices will naturally rise.
I disagree dude, not EVERY girl will go for 2000 LT and certainly they won’t go with EVERY guy for the price either. If my girls didn’t bring home 3k long time they’d have serious problems with me.
Fair enough Chris, I understand not every girl will go LT for 2000 bht, but how attractive a girl is can be subjective. What im trying to say is you can get good quality girls for that price. Obviously our age, attractiveness, charisma, banter and the rest of it goes along way in terms of what the girls will be willing to accept. I’m only talking from my experience. As the days passed whilst on holiday I kept on pushing the limits in terms of what I was offering, as case of if you don’t ask, you don’t get! And to my surprise I actually ended up paying significantly less for the girls then others. Some of the girls even suggested meeting me later so that I wouldn’t have to pay the bar fine.. Honestly, I’m only talking from my experience although I know these girls are also smart and will fish for as much as they can get, after all the hot ones know someone will be willing to pay the ridiculous prices they quote.
Ps which bar do have? I’ll be back in town soon and will pop by for a drink, chat and see if I can work my magic 😉
It used to be like that Dude , only 7 years ago you had stunners in a cheap bar.
But Thailand’s nighlife took a dramatic downturn.
I have seen this kind of thing before by other people. It has nothing to do with fools or ugliness or anything like that at all. I wont pay 2500 st because I know that there is no need to. I will, however, pay 2000bt ST because that is sometimes required and I have several years of experience. It is all to do with who YOU consider “hot”. I have seen girls who I could understand as being perceived as being “hot” by others. I do not find them hot, it is as simple as that. I have paid as low as 500bt but they are never as good. You can still get freelancers in pattaya for 600bt… they may be hot by someone’s standards, but not mine. There is an extremely small minority of girls that I am interested in. That makes 1000bt ST almost utterly impossible. I say “almost” because I have found the odd couple of girls in the go go bars off beach road who seem ok and will do 1000bt ST and 2000bt LT. They seem to be the exception but they are quite rare and often I will find that all of those bars are no good.
I lived in Pattaya for some considerable time after visiting the place for many years. Was last there 2016. The problem that I found with many girls from the beer bars was that they did not want to perform. The old trick of after agreeing to understand what it is you want, when you get back to the room it is, ” What! No! I not do. You must pay!”. Lost count of how many times I have had to kick out a bar girl for that very same reason. Girls from AGOGO are far less likely to give you the turn around in attitude and you must still pay for getting nothing routine. Girls on Soi 6 I found to be the best option. Seldom do they disappoint. You don’t get the attitude change, but demand for money for nothing routine, it’s cost effective and very, very convenient.
ive done more than think about it, ive been there and done it, for the last 10 years.
many tourists wont put a bit of shoe leather on the ground to look around. on my last visit i had 3 mparlor girls that would have made very decent gogo girls, fantastic value for money, there’s any number of bars that will harbour hidden gems, not to mention freelancers, on my last visit dec 2013, there was a girl walking about 30 yards in front of me on soi diana, i noticed guys were gawping at her, i quickly walked up beside her and kaboom, stunning, voluptuous girl who could have been worthy of any gogo,
i smiled said how are you, got her number and the next night, had LT 1500
Then there’s the Kinerre club in Pratmanuck, some stunning girls, ST 1000 + 300 Room +drink, the lady i had there was the equal of any of the showgirls i have had.
i had some lovely girls on soi 6 to, = to 6-7 standard gogos, in fact when i did a couple of gogo tours on my last trip, the standard was disappointing.
ive had my share of top gogo showgirls in the past, but most of them are simply not worth the trouble, to much attitude.
the way to go is do some research and get out there, plenty of beauties to be found.
Hi,
I’m in Pattaya right now, and I’m really disappointed, I was here later november and it was easy to get girls everywhere, they seemed to outnumber guys 10 to 1, now I think all the decent giels have gone home to isaan.
Several times I have gone out looking to get LT with money and come back empty handed, as the girl werent interested in leaving the bars.
The normal thai girls wont give me a second look, like they are too good for me, I came to pattaya as a single guy looking to get a bit of company from women but its been the opposite.
I am so disappointed I feel like giving up staying in my apartment and using porn and my hand, cheaper and less stressful.
As far as Bangkok is concerned there are a few bars that have the stupid barfines. I am not sure when Shark and Lighthouse (soi cowboy) joined the stupid crowd but their barfines are now 1500b. I always ask at the door what the barfine is before I enter now. It saves wasting money in their bars. It is maybe unlikely that these assholes will go out of business like they deserve but at least they won’t be getting any money from me. I guess there will be wankers who keep them in business but I will not humor them.
I think the other one in soi cowboy is “Cocktail” near rawhide (2000bt barfine). It seems empty most of the time. Much of Soi cowboy was ruined not long ago by that idiot Iranian. He destroyed about 5 or 6 bars I think. I would not even consider going in any of his now. Somehow Rawhide survived and I thought it was going to go the way of the Iranian bars. I actually thought he owned it now but maybe it never happened. Rawhide is a bit empty but at least it is not Iranianized. It was one of the best bars unfortunately but is somewhat sparse.
Most bars still seem to be in the 600 – 700 baht range barfine. The only stupid barfine place I can think of in Nana is that one on the top floor – “Wild thing” or something like that. It is a shithole still like it always was but for some reason they have a ridiculous barfine (2000bt). I had not checked what the barfine was before I entered so unfortunately they got some money from me for 1 drink. I cannot see how they can survive because it is normally empty of customers (and deserves to be).
Mr Smith
must admit tjats a smart move asking what the bf is before entry, i will remember that
as im going to Pattaya next week for 2 weeks of fun, so ill update my view of the scene in due course
thanks
Been going to Lighthouse for a couple of years now, BF 700 THB, maybe they talking about Coyote girl BF?
I was in Soi Cowboy in 2014 and was getting quoted between 2500 and 4000 for bar fines upon asking at the entrances. I was also told about the Iranian problem being the source. Are the bar fines there still the same?
Even many girls in beerbars ask 3KB for LT.
I found two lovely girls in Soi Buakhao, one in Jum Bar in Boom Boom Entertainment (formerly named Blue Rahtree) complex and one in Lucky Star Bar, at the entrance of that complex (where Rehab Agogo was). Not a very crowded place, but worth a visit. Take a motorbiketaxi. Both girls 300B barfine, both asked 1500 for LT. One dropped her price immediately to 1KB when I suggested to have a look around…
Good girls, 20 and 25, could both also have worked in a Agogo. One actually had.
Barfined them both twice.
I payed 700BF + 3000KB LT (flatrate!) for girl in Papagayo, Soi Diana Inn.
Not cheap, but was definitely worth the money.
Once I BF a girl, leave asap and continue at a bar of your own choice.
Before BF be sure that girl has no problem with the specific exercises you have in mind.
It helps to avoid disappointing nights.
Don’t be shy!
Papagayo is where I picked up a girl for 1500 LT. These girls will make up prices as they go along. Stand your ground, although they will be picky… What’s the world coming too??
At least as far as Patong is concerned, bar fines are 1,500 Baht in the bars at the front of the new Tiger bar complex from early evening until 1.00 am when they drop to 1,000 Baht. Bars at the back of the bar complex remain the same at 1,000 Baht regardless of the time of night.
Most girls will only go with you after 1.00 am because then they get a 50% share of the bar fine instead of the usual 30%. If she is willing to go with you before 1.00 am, it’s either because she likes you, or because you’re a handsome young man.
When it comes to age, it depends on how old the punter is. 20-30 yrs old and you can take your pick and pay almost next to nothing. 30-40 yrs old and provided you’re willing to buy her at least five lady drinks at 200-220 Baht a throw and you’re not fat and ugly, she’ll go with you LT for around 3k. 45-55 yrs old and you’re competing with the young ones no matter how much cash you have to chuck around. Expect to pay 4k for LT and even then, you might struggle to get a good looking chick. 60+ and you’re really in trouble even if you’re willing to pay handsomely for your pound of flesh. LT is generally out of the question and your 4-5K will only get you ST and half of that will be spent taking a shower. To get around the latter problem, you’ll have to spend time getting to know someone.
My advice to older guys (like myself) is to reconnoitre the bars and find one where there are a few reasonably good looking chicks. Go spend some time there just chatting and getting to know whoever you’re interested in. Maybe you’ll come way empty handed the first night, but on your second visit, you’ll be surprised how much more relaxed the girl will be. Breaking down those initial barriers is an important step in getting into her knickers without it costing you a small fortune. If you like her, take her shopping the next day. For that, you’ll need her phone number. Once you have that, you can call her any time during the day and avoid bar fines altogether. She’ll be more than happy to go with you since by buying her something, you’ll have already demonstrated you’re a generous guy.
Doing it this way also pays off for your next trip since you won’t have to bother going through the same old rigmarole all over again and can simply call her before you arrive. It’s the way I do things anyway and it works for me.
You are lucky if you still find bar girls who will stay with you for 24 hours for a 1000 price. One of the biggest changes is that it is now almost impossible to get a bar girl who will stay longer than the half hour necessary to unload the weapon. Only a few years ago, this was not the case. Mind you, perhaps it depends on whether you are taking the attractive young women or not. If you are one of those who like girls who are ” only ” around thirty, with a couple of kids, then perhaps they stay longer. Glad to say that I couldn’t tell you about that.
I’m in Pattaya for the first time. First night met lovely 31yrs lady in Happy Connor bar. BarFine 300bht, her company 24/7 2000bht stayed with me Thursday to Sunday when I let her go as I wanted to savour some other delights. Monday night visited walking street soaking atmosphere and a lot to drink. Went back to hotel via Soi 6 about midnight. Had one for the road when bar owner asked me which girl you like. I selected lovely 37yrs lady. Barfine 300bht longtime 2000bht. Had great time she left after breakfast. Tuesday night I visited Soi 7. Third bar I had a drink in at about 10pm served by gorgeous 23yrs girl. Asked her to join me, after ten minutes chatting I asked if she would like to spend longtime with me which she agreed. Barfine 300bht longtime 2000bht. She was exceptional in between sheets. In the morning she was a little shy and I got the impression she enjoyed my company but no more time together – probably because I’m 55yrs. We had breakfast and she left with my promise to visit her again. I’m going to Soi 7 tonight but hope click with different chick.
Come on guy’s lets stick together. Don’t pay more than 2000 b for long time 24/7. Thats for any girl. Stand your ground. You will find what you’re looking for if you are enjoying your self. Show them respect and don’t treat them like a piece of meat. BF should not be more than 500 b tops. There’s not that many high rollers to worry about. If they can get them good luck to the girl.
Stick together men have some balls.
Alski
Couldn’t agree more, stick to a price in your head, I’ve just got back and set my limit at 1500 LT, trust me I got stunners from many gogo bars that have been mentioned at that price, even less, and even free!! And I know people that paid twice as much in the same gogo bar, on the same night because they couldn’t negotiate are good deal. These guys just couldn’t look, or speak to the girls without thinking outside their boxers. You really do need to have self control. A friend of mine who I travelled with was exactly like that and over paid on numerous occasions. Eventually I had to step in to negotiate on his behalf, it’s saved him thousands.
I’ve been in Pattaya nearly two weeks and need some advice about keeping a girl on for extended LT. I’ve paid BF 300bht plus 2000bht LT. When I ask how much for extra days on a couple of ocassions the lady responds “how much you pay”. I’ve agreed 2000bht but perhaps I should agree 1500bht. Also, do I have to pay BF for each day. Advice would be welcome please.
When a girl says how much you want to pay, she probably happy just to be with you John may agree, in which case start with 500 and settle at 1000 😉 that’s what I’d do.
no more than 1,500, yes pay fine each day i think, also remember she will not be paying for food, drinks or entertainment, and will doubtless be enjoying a nice room, shower etc, recall some of these girls live in hovels with no shower, etc often several girls in a room
recall that many guys ‘passing’ through Pattaya (and particularly those that use hookers in their own countries) may regard even 3, 4 or 5’000 baht or more as small change compare to home prices, where i live a decent looking escort off a website such as adultwork will be £90 to £120 (5000 -7000 baht) and that for 1 hour !!
also purely quoting the girls price is not the full picture best include bar fine, lady drinks (including those for others in the bar/gogo) food? etc. for any one encounter, so for a gogo girl i would budget for 2,500 to 3,000 everything as above included
when i was there last september i tended to stay with massage girls, using some foot leather to find some hidden gems, including a spectacular lady on soi chayiapoon who was for my tastes 5 star gogo standard, in fact she stood out like a sore thumb and disappeared a day or so later! 1000 baht all in.
Likewise on soi 6, 1000 for gal 300 bf and lady drink so total package 1500 give or take a 100, and that was for girls that would be regarded as very desirable by the vast majority of men.
You pay local prices not home prices. I wouldnt expect to go into a 7/11 and pay 500baht for a box of fags when they are priced at 90bht.
Actually they are 120 now for a packet of marlboro
I am currently in pattaya and the barfines are just ridiculus, 1500 before 10pm and 1000 after 10…. what i have notice u can use social media apss like wechat or momo to search girls in your nearby area, you can get girls for 2500-3000 for longtime, just negociate with them.
Hey I’m going to pattaya in august 2015. Im going to japan first, then taking time for myself for a while. I’d like to exchange emails with someone who has been in Pattaya recently and is a “Vet”. I have been looking through the internet, and sources seem out dated, and just not relevant.
Im male in my mid twenties, just looking to plan the greatest trip he can 🙂 My email is nick.mckinty at gmail.com Subject: Pattaya Advice .
Thanks in advance
You got it made in mid 20’s, wish I had gone there then. I would try I-Bar in Walking Street, get yourself a Gold Card as it knocks 20% off your drinks and they are fairly reasonable anyway. Plenty of young girls there, mostly bargirls off duty so they don’t want to be hassled by us oldies but they would welcome a younger guy. Dress to impress and use aftershave, they like that as most of their customers and the guys that hit on them there smell of beer and cigarettes. I’m convinced the price of the girl comes down to whether they like you, if they don’t they will charge more.
1500 bar fine 3000 for the girl. Walking street Pattaya Thailand. Hot. Very hot.
Hi,
I ended up living in Pattaya for several months late last year, which was enough time to evaluate, I learnt that,
1. It’s much cheaper to get a girl from beach rd, 500 baht for short time.
(Even though I had good experiences be careful as I’ve heard horror stories, drugging etc)
2. Do not get involved and try and make a bargirl a girlfriend, I found this out the hard way, not only does it make you a prisoner in candy land it’s also just as expensive and a waste of time and will end when you return to your home country.
3. You can take advantage of the 200 baht massage and do quite a bit, but feel free to tip as well a few hundred
4. Be prepared to go from stud to spud when you get home which can be a rude shock lol
I love your last comment number 4!
For extended LT keep in mind that many girls count what they have to earn pee month.
So a girl that usually asks 1500 LT and on average is barfined 20 times a month, will often accept 1000 for extended LT.
Barfine in Tim Bar Agogo Second Road 1000. Nice girl 2000 LT.
In Lady Love Agogo Soi LK Metro barfine 1500 (!). After midnight 1000. Stunning girl 3000 LT.
Barfine in Soi 7 in some bars ‘temporarily’ raised from 300 to 400 because of Songkran.
Nice girl in Happiness Stars Bar Soi 7 1500 LT. Extended LT 1000 per day + barfine.
Cutie in Soi Buakao Lucky Star Bar 1500 + 300 LT.
Girls and Ladyboys on Thaifriendly.Com vary enormous. From 1200 LT to 4000 ST.
Girl from Thaifriendly (not bargirl or freelancer) : First two LT’s 2000. Then she paid rent for her hair and beautyshop. Afterwards three days for free.
My age is 51. 105 kilogram.
Enjoy Pattaya!
I have always heard the fallacy that everything is based on age but to me its total b.s. I’m a 46 yr old guy and am definitely not a Brad Pitt look alike and yet I still get the “hot” looking girls to go with me and for no more ever than 2000bt.
These girls can figure out what type of guy you are in 2 seconds flat. It’s a skill they have to learn to survive. They have enough horror stories.
And anyone can do this doesn’t matter how old, looks, or weight. So here’s a hint I’ll let ya figure out the rest.
Befriend a waitress or other girl there. Take them out, treat them to fun not expensive if you know how to do it. NEVER EVER SLEEP WITH YOUR FRIEND or FRIENDS…… Once your in with friendship guess who now makes sure you get the girls you want……Why cause they know you are Jai Dee THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE JAI DEE. I have had girls take me on vacation, go out partying, dinners etc… all at no expense…..but I also treat them out as well.
Nothing better then walking in and having the hot girls leave whoever they are with to come get me…..:-).
One more note…
These girls will no if your full of shit and just befriending them for future benefits. If you are genuine your in but they will be able to tell if you aren’t that kind of guy..you will not fool them!!!!!!
Packhike
your point is interesting but mongers like me and 000’s of others dont have the time to really facilitate such a strategy, i go to Patts once per year for perhaps 3 weeks
depending on energy levels I and most visitors in my position want to get stuck into as many ladies as we can, if you are a very regular visitor or live there your strategy is a very good way to go.
in fact it reminds me of a time i went gogo shopping with a guy who lived over there, he was about 60 very overweight, and hardly what you would call good looking, (he told me his strategy)
he was a very social chap with the ladies, he would get the hottest girls as well, he would go to the gogo buy some lady drinks for his target/s, getting to know them, joking etc BUT Not trying to barfine them immediately, he would do this several times, he would be very welcomed by the girls as they felt unpressured and relaxed, eventually they would be pleading to be bar fined by him !!!
in the end its horses for courses, i have an american buddy who is just returning from a 7 month stay, he is over 60 but has been banging 2 girls a day on average, he never goes to bars or gogos, he picks girls up off the streets, in small restaurants, the market, never pays more than 1,000, he has a secret weapon, he speaks thai fluently !! he can joke in thai, he treats the girls well and has a vast harem of girls, he gets calls from the friends of these girls who want the action from him
there is something for everyone in Pattaya
Hey chris. This strategy works for everyone even if you go for 3 weeks a year, more often, or live there. Just remember you walk back into a bar you visited last year and some of the same girls are there they will remember you. I have no clue how they do that one. LOL You might take one or 2 nights off in that 3 week period to play the nice guy (you still have soi 6 etc,) but the pay off in the future trips is well worth it.
You will still be able to shag as many girls as you want as well. I have gone on quite a few bar hopping trips with my thai lady friends. They love to go since most go-go’s will not allow unkown Thai women in. You might walk in with some Thai women friends but they will let that place know that you are just a friend and looking for a girl. And that will instantly get you the better girls since they will now relax 100% cause they see you with your friends. (Some of the stories of the shit that happens to these ladies isn’t funny and that is always in the back of their head on first meeting you if you can relax that thought then your fun time goes way up) And the best thing about having them come along is the competition that erupts between them trying to get me to take their lady. And even if you don’t take a lady if you like to drink all nite they know the clubs that are open way past closing time…. Some of the best times I have ever had is being at clubs where I was the only Farang…….
And they will protect you from girls who don’t have your “best interest” in mind when getting back to the room. They pretty much interview them…..As several thai women have told me. Your’e a guy you need to get laid…… The “Service Industry” is every in Thailand and the ladies of Thailand know that. There are place that this goes on for Thai people you wouldn’t believe that they are doing that there….
Sounds alright as long as your “thai friends” also know how to pay their own bills otherwise it’s pointless.
I should reiterate set up an expat bar where you go to just drink. Never ever barfine for sex from that bar……..This is where you get the relationships built up…Also pick one go-go and never ever barfine from there. Strike up relationships with the waitress staff and build the relationship there………Everyone should always have 1 bar and 1 go-go they never barfine out of…Remember don’t shit where you eat.
I have found a big problem with this very theory. There are places in Pattaya I just like to go for a drink and possibly a chat. You cannot do that without spending a fortune on lady drinks upon the basis that you are there and have said good afternoon. The girls working there, ( even if they are fat, unattractive and years too old to consider for anything other than conversation ) will expect a never ending flow of lady drinks at each visit. If you don’t fork out for it ( which I refuse to, I only buy a lady drink for a girl I want ) then you will be simply blanked out. It is even worse if you are not, because you are made to feel terrible if you do not buy the lady drinks. ” She not have drink. Buy her a drink” is COMMANDED. Heard it often in Pattaya.
If you’re funny and having a good time, typically the girls will just come to you. Thai’s like fun, and if you ain’t fun then you gonna have to pay for it. Find out some jokes and lead with a smile.
I also found if you buy the ugliest girl in the bar a drink you score brownie points with the pretty ones.
In BKK now and been visiting in Soi Cowboy a few nights now.
I’m 27, from a top 3 blondest/whitest country in the world, “good looking”, not fatty and been mostly the youngest guy in gogo club (I guess it’s not busy season in July?).
The lowest offer I’ve got so far was from baccarat for 2500 st + 600bf + 180 drink. Max was 3,2k for st. And these girls are not what you would call “coyote girls”.
So over 3200 to get her out, my hotel cost, flight costs etc, would be better off in my home country.
Still 4 days here before going to pattaya so I might as well try to pick up from the streets and see what rates I’m getting
//July 2015
Avoid Soi Cowboy, it’s ridiculous now, try Climax on Soi 11, catch a taxi there and Climax pay for the taxi. It will be 1500-2000 for a girl, short time if she doesn’t like you or long time if she does, same price.
What are you talking about? You gotta pay 200 baht to get into Climax, then all the chicks are wearing clothes, it’s dark you really can’t see what’s going on, half the chicks are with guys and everyone is over 20. Head to crazy house 2700 all in, they are naked you know what you’re getting.
Taxi fare to Climax is free, the bar pays the fare, 200 baht to get in and you get a free beer so basically cost neutral. Carry a torch, that way you can check them out, besides if you take the fake lashes and makeup off they all look the same.
The best thing to do, for all our sakes, is to not go to BKK/Pattaya/Phuket for one season. It’s getting ridiculous what they want to be paid!
I’m starting to enjoy Angeles City. It’s a little bit cheaper and the attitudes are better.
Leave Thailand with no customers for a season and see how they react. Well, they might increase their prices again.
Yeah that won’t work at all, I’ve never seen a Thai put the price down on rent (never will), alcohol has stupid tax on it as well, the government is only going to increase that. Tea Money ain’t going down, not coming here will just put it all outta business not lower costs.
Try Cambodia, smaller and quieter but he’ll of a lot cheaper, I hate Angeles, would prefer Cebu but then I also hate Filipinas, lazy.
I am in Cambodia now, Phnom-Penh. I would not recommend it. Barfine $ 10, ST $ 20-40, LT $ 40-80. That is what I experienced last seven days.
The big problem here is that girls do not stop asking for ladydrinks. The biggest problem is that more than 70% of the young and beautiful girls don’t go outside at all.
Therefore I changed to Platoon Disco. Absolutely not what I like, but in the bars I get only frustrated. Thank God I go back to Pattaya in two days now.
We had a ball there, my mates were paying the girls in Thai Baht $1000 long time, sometimes cheaper. I never had an issue getting one to come back to my room for the night. phnom Phen certainly is a bit of a ghost town after 8pm but I would go back.
I simply cannot be,I’ve what people are saying about Angeles. Been there three times now, the first time seven years ago, the last time eight months ago. Every time I go there it is worse. The vast majority of girls are very unattractive, have an overhanging belly and look totally uninterested. The prices now are possibly more than in Thailand ( first time there 1000 Pasos all in, now 3000 Pasos for the same women, only now seven additional years older ). Every cute girl sais no, I cannot,mi am a Cherry girl ( virgin ) so I not go ( almost cast iron guaranteed ) not forgetting of course that it is almost guaranteed that you will end up with Clamydia. The first time I was there, seven years ago, virtually every third girl I chose was running with it.
Last 6 months in Pattaya are quite reasonable, except for agogo bars.
Nice girls from beer bars 1500-2000 ฿ longtime. That’s not too bad.
Shorttime is not my style.
Extended longtime 1000-1500 ฿.
Girls who ask more, I consider as a refusal.
Wonderful time.
Short time has its advantages, after blowing your load do you really want a bird hogging the bed?
Very apt observation. The main difference with Long Time is that the girl will sit up in the bed, watching Thai pop music videos on your TV, and only turning down the sound for the many received telephone calls from other men making arrangements for her services. Why on earth does any man want to pay her money for that?!?
Who pays bar fines, that’s what the novices do but personally I can’t be bothered wasting my money. The best way to get a girl, dress neat and use aftershave and your half way there. Go to beer bars on Soi 6 or any day time Soi during the day and have a few beers, chat to the girls then invite them to meet you at I-Bar or somewhere after they finish “work”. Give them 1000-1500 for LT. Also try Lucifers, Marine Disco (expensive drinks though so go pissed), plenty of good looking freelancers just make sure your valuables are locked away if you take them to your room. Also try soi7 do the same, buy them a couple of drinks and then tell them to meet you when they finish on Walking Street. But remember, dress nice and use aftershave, the girls hate smelly untidy farang wearing flip flops and shorts and singlets. AND AVOID BANGKOK, too expensive these days.
Dude the only rookie mistake being made is inviting a soi 6 girl to I-bar, what’s the point of that? If you don’t want to pay a bar fine get some numbers and sit in your apartment and wait for them to come over.
You don’t go there to sit in an apartment all day and night, take them to I-bar give them a couple of drinks of the cheapest rum and bobs your uncle. You will find girls won’t give you their phone numbers, it’s against bar rules and they are too scared mama will see.
I’ve never asked for a girls number, they beg me to take it. I think git’s comments are correct. Who really wants to bone a whore drunk, or even a drunk whore for that matter?
well im not a novice and i pay bar fines !! dont know how old you are but the strategy you describe is a younger monger’s ploy, it would make for far too long a night for me and a lot of older boys, and very loud discos are not everyone’s flavour. why would you wish to go ‘pissed’ as well ? being drunk is hardly a performance enhancer ‘in the loom’ afterwards ?
i agree with you re ST v LT, Many gals dont really want LT and will often make all sorts of excuses to leave early before ‘wake up’ sex and will also expect the LT price despite that!! its not worth the hassle unless you have a lady you have got genuine rapport with, best get a decent night’s sleep for the action the following day
Yes. You hear a lot of garbage about blokes gathering girls numbers so that they can get them later without a bar fine. Loads of guys can be seen doing it, thinking that they are being clever. What happens in reality? Well, there it is like the Soi Bukau bar called ” Standby Girl” only the ” clever ” guy is the ” Standby Guy”. If he is ” lucky” he gets a girl at 2.00 am, when he is going to be tasting and smelling a big German when he goes down there. That is if he is lucky. If not, it’s do it yourself time.
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Nowadays in Pattaya you can find many girls (bar girls and free-lancers) on thaifriendly.com
A free-lance girl that I had for three days (she asked 2000 per day, I agreed 5000 for three) showed me every day the offers that were made to her. Some men are offering ridiculous prices, without even asking. Now she is on a holiday to Phuket. Ten days for ฿ 80.000. She did same trip with same man three months ago for same price.
She has every week at least two men offering ฿ 5000 or more for LT.
For those girls there is no need to go LT for ฿ 1500 anymore, so they will not do, if they don’t like you.
Therefore giving the girl a good experience: comfortable room, good food, visit some of her friends, go to a movie (all not necessarily that expensive), is getting a more important part of the game. Not send them back to their hovel after blowing your load.
Ofcourse nobody has to agree with me, but now I have a good stock of girls I can rely on for 24 hours or more for a reasonable price.
Frank
you make a good point, TF ive noticed in the past year is growing steadily with many gals obviously looking for customers (and doubtless some nerds who will send them money!)
as you say room, comfort away from the hovels lots of the girls live in, also they will much prefer simple thai issan food not swanky restaurants, a bit of fun, a bit of rapport, its a real stress reliever for them
if you are fortunate enough to live there you can meet any number of girls in the markets, on the streets, freelancers, mp girls or bar girls relaxing before work,
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An american buddy of mine was there october 14 to april this year, regularly 2 girls daily, the girls love a regular fuck and the steady baht that goes with it, he had so many girls wanting action he had to turn his phone off most of the day, friends of the girls were ringing him asking to be fucked next!! ‘ never paid more than 1000 baht ST
all those ladies one way or the other are desperate for the baht!
Cheers
“…good looking coyote girls that don’t even want to go out in the first place since they make 20k dancing on the pole.”
20K a month is not an acceptable income for a good looking young girl. Maybe 10 or 15 years ago.
A simple room is about ฿ 5000 a month. Including water and electricity it’s ฿ 10.000 a month. I can show you the bills.
Add cost for motorbike, telephone and Thai food, then 20k is finished already, without sending a single Baht to family.
I’ve visited pattaya six of the last seven months. First month i was butterfly different lady every night. I don’t do short time. I pay 1500-2000 lt plus 300 bar fine. One bar ask 400 bar fine which i pay but don’t go back to that bar again. Second month i try beach road. I get quoted 1500-2000 lt, probably because I’m 55 and prefer ladies 25-30. I meet some nice ladies but find one on a par with me great fun and bisex too. She is now my long time companion. I pay her 2500 a day and occasionally give her 1000 tip for shopping. She looks after all my needs including taking a lady or two on some nights (yes a foursome with three ladies). We’ve been to bangkok, phuket and lopburi. Avoid bangkok and phuket too expensive. Lopburi quiet but my lady knew where to find action. On lady drinks, only buy if you are in interested in lady, otherwise when you go back to bar lady will sit next to you and ask for drink again and again and again. ……….
They make more than that 20,000, add an extra 1000 a night in lady drinks that is lemon juice, I mean margaritas, then tips. These girls could easy take home 60,000 without dropping their panties.
On soi cowboy last night. My first time. I picked girl standing outside and in front. Barfine was 3000 baht. Minimum total for 2hrs was 4000. This after 800 spent on drinks. They told me she was new. I took this for a grain of salt.
Is 3000 really the bar fine rate these days?
The bar fine for coyote girls in half the bars is 3000 baht some like Spice girls is 5000 baht bar fine. You must have got her out the front of Cowboy 2?
Cowboy 1 or 2. I didn’t know about coyote girls. I guess I picked up one of the better ones.
I asked them before what’s the difference between a coyote and a gogo, the girl laughed and said go go girls are ladyboys, she didn’t imply they actually were (though mostly are) the difference is sexy hot thai girl = coyote.
good grief those are western prices ST, one hour with good looking hooker
off the net anywhere in the UK using Adultwork, punternet, Viva street between £100 to £150 per hour,
those Thai prices you quote, richer man’s toys for those with money to burn ,
on my last visit to Pattaya for 5,000 baht, i had golf with ex-pat society 2,000 all in, later massage + Bj (700) +ST and later in the evening, soi 6 approx 1500-1,800 all in depending on amount of drinks, 500-700 for the days food, of course on non-golf days i had an ‘extra’ 2000 or so for the day’s fun, and will be doing similar later this year thank goodness
Jesus prices have just gotten ridiculous. First trip in 95 soi cowboy BF 500b all nite long spent another 500b in drinks. And the girl would iron your clothes, get you shower stuff all ready for you and a crap load of other stuff. The kind of service going on nowdays is fucking ridiculous…
If they dont treat me like im used to they get kicked the fuck out. But then again I dont barfine anymore. Hello discos, Karaoke, and a few other places but those I keep to myself.
I visited Soi 6 Pattaya with my 29yrs thai girl I’ve been with for six months at 10,000bht per week. We wanted a threesome. After a couple of bars we met 27yrs Iassan lady. St 1500bht, bar fine 700bht upstairs or 300bht back at my apartment. Had an enjoyable couple of hours in apt. When I asked lady how much lto stay the night she wanted 3,500bht so I let her go.
10,000 baht a week for the last 6 months? You know there are plenty of ladies who will be your girlfriend and look the other way as well. But paying someone to be your girlfriend is not a girlfriend. Just saying….
James, all women cost you money, I’m still paying my ex Aussie gf more than 10,000 baht a week and I haven’t shagged her for 12 years. I would be happy to pay a Thai whore 10,000 a week then when the novelty wore off you can pack their bags and tell them to piss off without an ongoing debt.
James I didn’t say girlfriend I said thai girl. 10,000bht a week is ok as I’m 55 not fit and past it, although I can still get my pecker up. At my age I’m grateful to have met a lady half my age who is good company as well as good sex for the equivalent of £200 a week. I’m happy and have great memories now I’m back home. My thai girl keeps in touch as I’ll be going back to Thailand soon. When I left Pattaya I told her I don’t sponsor but will be in touch when I go Pattaya again.
Hi,
I’m back in pattaya at the moment, it seems the price for st is now 1000 baht plus bar fine and lt is 1500 baht plus barfine even the beach st girls are charging from 700-1000 for st.
But it’s still better to be single and pay for it because if you don’t the lady will expect you to be faithful and they can be very possessive, so it’s worth paying so you can give them back lol
I was in phuket,patong a few weeks back. I am an asian from the neighbouring country. Barfines have gone up from 600baht to 1000baht.
Got a girl from soi seadragon on the first night for 1500baht LT no barfine since it was already 3am
Next night went to the same bar and because it was still early,i was quoted 1000baht for barfine. I left saying that i will be back later. Got sleepy and slept alone instead. But because where i come from is pretty near to phuket, i have seen the steady rise in the BF rates over the past few years.
I am in my mid 30s and dark skinned by the way.
I’ve just returned from another 2 month trip in pattaya. The usual a girl was asking was 1000 baht short time and 300 bar fine, this was soi 6, 7, 8 and soi bakao.
I did get it free on soi 6 which is extremely rare lol and lucky!
Also I had several girlfriends in that time who gave it up free but always comes with emotional strings attached so I still think better to pay!
Because I was there for a long time I had a couple of girls from beach rd for between 500-800 baht with no bar fine.
So if you budget for about 1300 baht which includes the barfine and know where to go your pretty much guaranteed!
Hope this helps and please don’t make the same mistake I make every time which is to get emotionally attached, it’s easy to do and even though this time it didn’t cost me financially it sure did emotionally and pretty much ends when I go home lol.
Cheers
Steve
Just a note for you all. I was out in patong last night and was quoted 2600 bf no matter if it was 3am with a 330am close. I had to laugh in her face and leave. But all of Suzy wong group bars there have this policy and are now asking 2k normal, 2.6k model for bf…
I’m leaving phuket for the Russians, this place is done.
In Phuket. Its not only over its cooked. Dead and Buried. Its 2000 baht bar fine for any bar of quality plus ST (1 hour) 2000 baht. Thats 4000 Minimum for an hour $160 with an OK looking Thai girl.
For Hottish girl double all of this to 7000-10,000 baht $300+ for an hour…same as HK, Sydney Melbourne. So Why leave home….One hot girl asked for 7000 baht bar fine and 4000 for her. I nearly fell over. They think its Tokyo or New York. Sorry….No Its just Phuket. With a beach which is now dirty and dark water.
Vale Phuket. I loved you once, but now you just love drunk fools wholl be broke soon paying these crazy prices for girls they can get at home or down the local brothel. And still have money for a nice juicy steak.
Paradise Lost. Thai Girls are no longer cool and sweet either, but money grabbing hungry whores like you wouldnt believe. Make the chinese look half decent.
I personally have no problem paying the bar fines I paid 2500 barfine (she is a published thai model)if u want to take the best girls out of the bars not so many customers stay and.drink as their are.no nice girls to look at,makes sense to me.
Where else in the world can u be escorted by a beautiful girl for 50 pounds a night?
Prices are still acceptable if on a holiday if you are living on a tight budget of course it seems expensive.
Lads I’ll be flying back into Thailand on the 28th, this Sunday. Will be in Phuket 3-6 April and pattaya 12-16… If anyone’s around and fancies a beer give me a shout. On a side note, what’s the action like in Chiang mai? I’ll be there 30-3rd April..
Hey. I have just returned from trip to Phuket. Have been there and other places a few times but this was first return for about 3 years.
I was shocked when Tiger bar Nasty in Patong told me it’s 1000BF for all bars. When I accepted that and found the hottest girl she was at Pink Paradise. Then they told me that place is 2000BF. Aaaaah! I went in expecting 500 which is what it was at Tiger last time. I searched a few things on net but not those prices.
Anyway when I do take a girl I have this little trick. I tell them I will give them 2000B for LT. They pretty much always say yes. Then in the morning I give them 1500. They very rarely argue.
Also went to Karon. Found a cracker of a girl in a little bar there. Still in contact with her. 300B barging for her. So u never know.