Farang with no manners
So the weirdest thing happened tonight. This guy emails me today on the site says he wants to meet up have a beer chat you know. That's cool because I'm always going out anyway and I've met some really cool friends from the blog so far so it's cool.
Anyway the guy is from the US and he says he is bringing his Swedish friend that he met in town. No problem. So as per my usual I encourage them to come with me to my favourite watering whole Maow Sabai (happy drunk) bar same place I arrange the Chiang Mai meet up at.
Now the Swedish guy I doubt has ever seen or read my blog so he doesn't know anything about me what I do like etc. The guy from the US does however so I'm sure we're going to get along but the first time I meet this Swedish guy he just seems a little strange and well a bit pretentious in a I know it all kind of way. I don't talk shit about people but you'll see in a minute why i'm not liking this guy.
So we get to Maow Sabai park our bikes and sit down. Milk one of the servers there comes over starts chatting to me seems we've known each other a while now, the other chicks come over too because it's pretty quiet and the US guy and the Swedish dude sit down and get handed a menu.
If you've ever been to Maow Sabai you'll know that it's kind of like a hole in the wall bar you might see in Fontana California except that the servers there get paid 80 baht a day to work so in order to get more they have to be extremely good to the customers. No this doesn't mean blowing you, just be friendly enough to make you have a good time. It's really not that seedy and hardly a karaoke type setting. It's just the cheapest place in Chiang Mai to eat and drink and have 20y/o Thai girls sit and chat with you. What hot bloody guy can't do that?
So Mr Sweden looks at the menu intently (I don't know why because it's only in Thai) I just order Leo because in the end that's the best beer they have their anyway. I'm trying to go between English and Thai all at once while everyone is talking and it's a real head spinner when Mr Sweden makes this weired face stands up waves his hands together says I can't do this get's on his bike and rides away.
WTF
I'm sitting there looking puzzled at asking the American what the hell was with that guy? Hey maybe it's not Nimmanheiman but it ain't Loi Kroh road either dude. What do you think he meant by "I can't do this" it's not like I took him into a Burmese brothel. It's just a bar/restaurant with hostesses that bad? Gees he'd probably die if I took him to the Glass window brothel.
Something weired about this guy maybe he was gay and didn't like the girls? Can't be that because I am friends with a number of gay dudes who'd have no problem meeting me there. Only thing I can think of he had a stick stuck way up his ass and had to go home to pull it out.
Obviously I'm a little more than offended and honestly embarrassed by what he did. The way he left was like saying I wouldn't be caught dead hanging around here or you. Funny thing is even if he was all high and mighty he's certainly not a gentleman and definitely has no manners. Now i'm no gentleman but I do have manners and If it were me in a situation I wasn't comfortable with i'd excuse myself politely and probably come up with some BS excuse as why I had to leave. That's the thing he made it about him when it should have been more about making us more comfortable with his departure.
Something tells me this guy isn't going to last in Thailand too long, he's probably packing his bags right now saying to himself "OMG this place is crazy beer bars with teenage girls that sit with me serve me drinks and wear tight outfits and it's going to cost me 100 baht I have to get out of here!!!"
Ahhh yes , the moral crusader with preconceptions in his head.
Always judgemental and missing the point ,viewing life through a very narrow perspective,(probably christian in this case) will travel to south east asia and will not learn a thing about it.
In his mind thailand is a third world country like Africa or the sub continent, all thai women are whores, and only speak to you becuase their ulterior motive is to leave thailand forever, when he arrives back home he will appreciate it more becuase of the suffering,and degradation he witnessed etc, etc everytime I meet these fools who travel with the blinkers on and return from asia with an backward impression I want to slap em around the head.If you can,t have sunuk in LOS you wont anywhere.
Yes the eastern mindset can be bewildering to some, and the cultural differences vast, but open you mind and enjoy thats what thailand is all about…
Correctly perceived as just a royal “dickhead.”
Well when you think about it “He was swedish” Pled guilty in front of you..Did he actually know what he was saying…After all it’s not enough to be fluent in English. Some have to be born to it!..I was going to say maybe he was bent, you beat me to it Chris..LMAO…BTW..
Were’s this bar. How far from chonburi is chiang mai? I am to lazy Google it.!!
Off topic question for you.
Why is Thailand a better location for an early retirement or other American expat to go to than the Philippines? I’m assuming you think it is. As I understand it most Philippine girls including those not in the sex trade speak English in Manila and in foreign tourist areas, and it’s not rare in the population as a whole, esp. middle class on up. It’s common.
I do get a general feeling that Thailand is better around the net but I’m wondering why.
The girls are 5x better looking, and tend to be karmic buddhist, not refugees from catholicism! Sex is ok!
Also, no cockfighting and hostage taking here.
I do get that Thai food is way better.
Hell we have tons of Thai restaurants in NYC, and very few Philippino ones. Thai ones appeal to non Thais, Philippino ones, not so much.
Thailand is more developed than the Philippines, more exotic and known to have some of the best beaches in the world. Thailand has beautiful Temples and Ruins with a more rich culture with centuries of tradition tied to Buddhism and has friendlier more welcoming people over all. Thai food is also very popular with foreigners and so is Muay Thai. Thailand is known as the gate way to southeast Asia, if not all of Asia, and has some of the Best Hospitals with the cheapest prices you will find in the world.
Oh, and we have hotter girls… need I say more?
Thailand is much safer than most western countries,I lived in Thailand,Bangkok and suburbs for over 8 years,off and on since my 1st visit in 1984,and spent 2005-2011 over there,I always felt a severe disconnect whenever I returned to the states.I immediately forgot how aggressive people are in the states the violent and cold culture IE: being afraid to talk with one another,the cultural differences were so significant that it would make depressed and saddened by the way my own culture,that lacks humanity & has a callousness that we American’s live day to day by. I also like Cambodia,Lao,Malaysia,even Mexico Guatemala,I speak a enough Thai, and am fairly fluent in Spanish, 3rd world countries ,make me sleep better at night and I feel safer much more living in one than in the states.
we have gone from a twat with no manners to ‘why is Thailand better than Philippines’ – weird
Some people are severely lacking in the manners department, and SOME are just plain strange. Maybe the Swede was simply a weirdo….?
Whatever the case, it’s that type of behavior that gives farangs a bad reputation. I imagine the Thais don’t differentiate between European and American – probably to them we are all ill-mannered – that’s why when I am out & about I try to put on my best behavior.
Yes, most Thais can’t tell Europeans and North Americans apart, so that is probably a good idea. I wish more people over all did this cause it should be common sense when ever you visit a foreign country you should always be on your best behavior. If someone were visiting your home as a guest wouldn’t you want them to do the same?
Thailand is more developed than the Philippines, more exotic and known to have some of the best beaches in the world. Thailand has beautiful Temples and Ruins with a more rich culture with centuries of tradition tied to Buddhism and has friendlier more welcoming people over all. Thai food is also very popular with foreigners and so is Muay Thai. Thailand is known as the gate way to southeast Asia, if not all of Asia, and has some of the Best Hospitals with the cheapest prices you will find in the world.
Oh, and we have hotter girls… need I say more?
great! but what’s it got to do with farang bad manners??? wrong thread dude
Actually my last post was suppose to be a reply to Doug1, but didn’t get posted below his comment for some reason.
Yea I know but I don’t understand why Doug1 is asking about Thailand and Philippines in a thread about farang bad manners? maybe there’s a connection but I can’t find it – you might say it’s ‘bad manners’ asking a question that is in no remote way linked to the thread? maybe that’s the connection? 😉
lol
Thailand is great its the farang that wrecks it. I meet awful farang on a daily basic and just have to shake my head and walk away. When i first got here i met a great group of people and we are all still friends even thou we have gone in different directions , but in last 6 mts it has just gone downhill . i agree the way some farangs act just make s me wont to hide my head in shame . we are guest in this country and lucky to be here . just treat people like you want to be treated.
The connection is ths swedish guy was comfortable with Phillipino girls, and just “couldn’t do it” with Thai girls. 🙂
yes agree that guy has a serius problem no doubt. i love thailand for those same reason,the people ,the laid back life. i perfer it to the U.S.A mainland. i am from hawaii so i understand to enjoy life is the best. i have been to chaing-mai in 2007 but will make a return trip and hit up your watering hole with the lovely girls and cheap Leo beer !!
I’m getting to understand the phenomenon.
I mean really, I’ve met more bottom-of-the-barrel losers of their respective nationalities in Thailand than just about anywhere else I’ve lived (and that’s saying something).
Didn´t you get it ?!?
Thai girls looks way much younger then they are. In Scandinavia teenagers/20´s try to look as old s possible. I guess that this swedish thought that the girls on the bars was minors, and this was a situation he found disgusting!